<html><head><base href="x-msg://13/"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">We had a mini-reunion in Asheville NC two weeks ago. Mary Z., Marsha Knight, Stovers, Wainwrights and Baileys. We hope to have another gathering later this year.<div>Currently, the Baileys, Dick West, David Rebstock have e weekly book discussion conference call. Currently we are reading Blessed Unrest by Paul Hawken. Anyone interested is invited to join us on Thursday night 8:30 ET. If you need the telephone number and access code let me know. I think Jim Weigle originally set up the "free conference call" It works great. going on 4 plus years.</div><div><br></div><div>Marianna<br><div><div>On May 13, 2012, at 9:55 AM, <a href="mailto:mhampton@att.net">mhampton@att.net</a> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: medium; "><div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 12pt; ">Thank you, Jean!<br><br>I was privileged to be at the Austin ICA 50th Anniversary celebration two weeks ago. Terry Bergdall joined us so we had a real update on current ICA programs.<br><br>Great things are happening and were reported, but I missed hearing something. <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br><br>This is the missing piece (I see I first typed "peace"). As are the local celebrations, once a month in the Central Texas area, where a remnant gather to share. And our wonderful Women's Spirit Retreats twice a year. And reaching together via the net like this.<br><br>For some its program, for some it program, mission and community.<br><br>What else are those of us not privileged to live at Kemper doing "together"?<br><br>Grace and Peace,<br><br>Love and Light,<br><br>mary hampton<br><br><br><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 12pt; "><br><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 12pt; "><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><hr size="1"><b><span style="font-weight: bold; ">From:</span></b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Jean Long <<a href="mailto:jean.long512@gmail.com">jean.long512@gmail.com</a>><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold; ">To:</span></b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Colleague Dialogue <<a href="mailto:dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net">dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net</a>><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold; ">Sent:</span></b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Fri, May 11, 2012 11:58:51 PM<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold; ">Subject:</span></b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [Dialogue] Quote from Bonhoeffer<br></font><br><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Greetings wonderful colleagues --</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "> </div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">This is Jean Long. I work in the Archives. Now, I don't know from quotes about the future generations -- all I can relate to you is what I have seen developing here in the Kempter Bldg. with the new staff who are running the ICA.</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "> </div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">They have attended courses like Elise and George Packard's on Imaginal Presence (forgive the title - it is something like that). They are working with a lot of profound old war horses -- and it is transforming their perspective on life.</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "> </div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">They come to our staff meetings and talk about "used to have a job here - and now they see that they have a mission in life to be here". They are learning to work as one team instead of little fiefdoms.</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "> </div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">The bldg. manager and the finance person have decided to move onto the 7th floor. The way they described it to our resident's meeting is, "Working with the ICA folks is the most extraordinary experience they have had - and they want to know more and figure moving in to live amongst us is the way to pursue that.</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "> </div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">We have monthly Friday night meals where we do an opening context about the role the meal has played in history - and in the ICA. We do birthday celebrations and a short conversataion at the end that lets us talk about who we are as a community - leading into a secular absolution. Even the bldg. construction mgr. and his crew come to that!!!</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "> </div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">So I don't know from quotes - but living with examples of care, compassion and sacrifiice has done a lot to shape the next generation here in the Kemper Bldg.</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "> </div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">PS - About 6 of the new staff are paying the way to the Nepal Conference. ...and two parents are taking their teenagers to have this experience with them.</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "> </div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Jean - moving to Kemper has made all the difference in my life - and theirs. <br><br></div><div class="gmail_quote" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 2:44 PM, William Schlesinger<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:pvida3607@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:pvida3607@gmail.com">pvida3607@gmail.com</a>></span><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); border-left-width: 1px; border-left-style: solid; ">Guess our eschatalogical hero got it wrong! Should have put Pontius Pilate away!<div class="HOEnZb" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><div class="h5" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><br><br><div class="gmail_quote" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 12:14 PM, R Williams<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:rcwmbw@yahoo.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:rcwmbw@yahoo.com">rcwmbw@yahoo.com</a>></span><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); border-left-width: 1px; border-left-style: solid; "><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font-family: tahoma, 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 12pt; "><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><span>Calls to mind the phrase out of the Patton monologue, "Your job is not to die for your country..."</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "> </div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">"Listen to what is emerging from yourself to the course of being in the world; not to be supported by it, but to bring it to reality as it desires."<br>-Martin Buber (adapted)<br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font-family: tahoma, 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 12pt; "><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 12pt; "><div dir="ltr" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font face="Arial"><div style="margin-top: 5px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 5px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; border-top-width: 1px; border-right-width: 1px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-left-width: 1px; border-top-style: solid; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-left-style: solid; border-top-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); border-right-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); border-bottom-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); line-height: 0; font-size: 0px; min-height: 0px; "></div><b><span style="font-weight: bold; ">From:</span></b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>William Schlesinger <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:pvida3607@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:pvida3607@gmail.com">pvida3607@gmail.com</a>><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold; ">To:</span></b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Colleague Dialogue <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net">dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net</a>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold; ">Sent:</span></b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Thursday, May 10, 2012 12:48 PM<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold; ">Subject:</span></b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [Dialogue] Quote from Bonhoeffer<br></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><br><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Of course, sometimes the coming generation needs to see people going down fighting like heroes in the face of certain defeat! Or at least, taking the hit of what seems like certain defeat, and disclosing that certain defeat isn't all it's cracked up to be...<br><br><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 9:41 AM, Terry Bergdall<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:bergdall2@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:bergdall2@gmail.com">bergdall2@gmail.com</a>></span><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>wrote:<br><blockquote style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); border-left-width: 1px; border-left-style: solid; "><span style="font-family: Times; "><span></span>"To talk of going down fighting like heroes in the face of certain defeat is not really heroic at all, but merely a refusal to face the future. The ultimate question for a responsible man to ask is not how he is to extricate himself heroically from the affair, but how the coming generation is to live."<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br><br></span>I believe this is from "After Ten Years" in Letters and Papers from Prison. Terry<br><br><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 8:50 AM, George Holcombe<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:geowanda@earthlink.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:geowanda@earthlink.net">geowanda@earthlink.net</a>></span><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>wrote:<br></div></div><blockquote style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); border-left-width: 1px; border-left-style: solid; "><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; word-wrap: break-word; ">What was that quote from Bonhoeffer a few days ago about lost causes, or going down with the ship, something like that. I was trying to look it up and couldn't find it.<div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><br><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><span><span style="text-indent: 0px; "><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; word-wrap: break-word; "><span style="text-indent: 0px; "><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; word-wrap: break-word; "><span style="text-indent: 0px; "><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; word-wrap: break-word; "><span style="text-indent: 0px; "><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; word-wrap: break-word; "><span style="text-indent: 0px; "><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; word-wrap: break-word; "><span style="text-indent: 0px; "><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">George Holcombe<br>14900 Yellowleaf Tr.<br>Austin, TX 78728<br>Mobile<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a rel="nofollow">512/252-2756</a><br><a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:geowanda@earthlink.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:geowanda@earthlink.net">geowanda@earthlink.net</a></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; word-wrap: break-word; ">Hope appeareth, but it is not your Hope—you do not have anything to do with it. It just appeareth. It comes as a stranger, as an alien—it just appeareth! You do not even know why you hope. How in the world could you hope when there is absolutely nothing to justify any hope? ~Joseph W. 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