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Sat Sep 28 22:31:09 PDT 2024

Thanks, Jim. I wonder why more people did not participate?

Sharon

On Fri, Sep 27, 2024 at 3:23 PM Jo Nelson via Dialogue <
dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:

> Thank you, Jim!
>
> From the mobile desk of
> Jo Nelson
>
>
>
>
> On Sep 27, 2024, at 5:12 PM, James Wiegel <jfwiegel at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> 
> OUR RESPONSES
> 9/11/2024 18:12:00
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> 9/11/2024 18:51:58
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> 9/11/2024 21:50:23
>
> *O. What words or phrases did you actually hear one of the candidates say?
> (quote them)*
>
>    -
>
>    Kamala: "I have a plan"; World leaders are worried, Mr. President,
>    about your stability" Donald: "You say you have a plan, why haven't you
>    already done this, you have been in office"; "Immigrants are eating
>    people's pets", "she won't do that because with a 50-50 congress she won't
>    have the votes"
>    -
>
>    Build on hope; bring us together
>    -
>
>    800,000 Polish migrants living in Pennsylvania
>
> *What images stood out for you? (describe what you actually saw)*
>
>    -
>
>    Kamala walking over and shaking Donald's hand; Donald's fierce
>    attention looking forward into the cameras; Kamala's facial exparessions
>    and looking at Donald when he spoke
>    -
>
>    Donald's glaring; Kamala's lifted eyebrows
>    -
>
>    Kamala's handshake. 81 million people fired you.
>
> *R. What part of this debate was exciting or compelling for you?*
>
>    -
>
>    Not really anything. It seemed as though everyone was better behaved
>    than in other recent debates and I liked that. I was excited about the
>    question on climate change, but then my computer froze up and I missed
>    their responses
>    -
>
>    Kamala's vivid depictions of women who were denied medical help when
>    experiencing a miscarriage
>    -
>
>    Each time he took the bait and she was able to show her own
>    capability. When she said foreign leaders laugh at you. "You are a
>    disgrace. Putin and all the other dictators see how pliable you are to
>    compliments and favors. What you don't know is Putin would eat you for
>    lunch!
>
> *What part of this debate was frightening or depressing?*
>
>    -
>
>    On the one hand, another Trump presidency is frightening and the
>    degree to which the conservative movement(s) in this country are taking
>    power in so many ways. On the other hand, a bit depressing thee assumption
>    that all a President has is policies to carry out with no acknowledgement
>    of the uncertainties and complexities of life. Also depressing the time
>    spent going back and forth on how well I/we did and how poorly the other
>    one did
>    -
>
>    Donald's story about Hatian migrants eating the dogs and cats of
>    Ohioan residents.
>    -
>
>    When Kamala did not answer the question.
>
> *What part made you want to turn it off?*
>
>    -
>
>    Not anything, really
>    -
>
>    Non - I couldn't stop watching
>    -
>
>    When Trump was allowed so much time.
>
> *I. What is something you learned from this debate? About the candidates
> and their intentions? About yourself?*
>
>    -
>
>    I relied A LOT on the visual cues and voice tones and outrageous
>    statements much more than anything factual or concrete
>
>
>    -
>
>    We are a divided nation largely caused by Trump's lies. Kamala is a
>    voice of hope and unity. I am opting, with my vote, for democracy, the rule
>    of law, and compassion for my neighbor.
>    -
>
>    Kamala knows how to command a sitation with poise.
>
> *What are you pondering now? *
>
>    -
>
>    how to get over this mutua belief that we are one another's enemies
>    -
>
>    Am I doing enough to help, beyond voting and contributing?
>    -
>
>    How can anyone believe and vote for Trump?
>
> *What did you discover about your own values or perspective through this
> debate?*
>
>    -
>
>    I am betting on the more diverse "faces" of the US (and the world) to
>    move things forward, especially the tone of debates. also it is difficult
>    for me to firmly identify myself as "American"
>    -
>
>    I love my country and its foundational pillars more than I realized. I
>    am grateful I grew up at a time (1950s) when that was just assumed.
>    -
>
>    I am uncomfortable with Trump's many lies. When they are laughable and
>    oulandish (eating pets or claiming to have won a lost election)
>
> *D. How would you summarize how this debate affected your thinking?*
>
>    -
>
>    I am wondering what it would take for the federal governement/state
>    and local to work more to get things done and less to rhetorical reviews of
>    their right ideology -- end the constant campaigning and focus on the
>    boring parts -- getting things done and making that newsworthy even if not
>    gripping and dramatic
>    -
>
>    I truly believe the moment has come for a Woman, and a woman of Color,
>    to become our next president.
>    -
>
>    Baiting can set someone off guard.
>
> *What further reflections would you like to share?*
>
>    -
>
>    I'm good
>    -
>
>    We need to stop banning books and re-empower social studies in our
>    secondary school curricula, especially what we once knew as Civics.
>    -
>
>    Harris's competence and joy is palpable and contagious!
>    -
>
>    Thank you. I will leave this conversation open for a week and then
>    share all our answers.
>    -
>
>    -
>
>    Thanks for giving us this opportunity.
>    -
>
>    Thanks, Jim!
>    -
>
>
>
>
> Jim Wiegel <http://partnersinparticipation.com/james-wiegel/>
>
> The unknown is what is.  And to be frightened of it is what sends
> everybody scurrying around chasing dreams, illusions, wars, peace, love,
> hate, all that.  Unknown is what is.  Accept that it's unknown, and it's
> plain sailing.    John Lennon
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