[Dialogue] [Oe List ...] WHO WE WERE

Thu Jul 28 11:14:15 PDT 2022

Randy, I came into the Order shortly before the turn to the world and
always heard it was an end run around the church, directly to the world.

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On Tue, Jul 26, 2022 at 3:20 PM Randy Williams via Dialogue <
dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:

> Frank,
> I think I asked this question a few years ago but will do so again. Around
> about 1972 some declaration was made that “the church is renewed,” and we
> did the “turn to the world.” My question is, did we do the “turn” because
> we thought our work with the church was done, or because we thought the
> attempts to renew the church were proving fruitless, so we did an “end run”
> around the church directly to the world? I have absolutely zero axes to
> grind here, but if we did think the church had been renewed, what was the
> evidence? What did we point to as the signs of renewal, and to what degree
> has it been sustained? I do believe this question is relevant to “who we
> were.”
> Randy
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> On Jul 26, 2022, at 12:04 PM, Frank Knutson via Dialogue <
> dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
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> Colleagues,
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> For me, the most radical was self support (not depending on anyone else
> for our support thus not being beholden to anybody) and poverty—in the U.S.
> $84/month. WOW!
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> The decision to Renew the Church. That war was won when the 3 strategies
> were decided & Imaginal Education methods were brought online. Everything
> flowed from that. And I agree with Sarah—Spirit Re-motivation was the glue
> without which nothing would happen. It’s the story of CF&LC &  O:E/EI/ICA
> that is the important story for the world. That’s how it all came about—it
> was people making the impossible, possible.
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> This is a diagram I created for the Archive Project, circa 2016. Notice
> that Spiritual Re-Motivation embraces it all.
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> [image: 3 STRATAGIES.png]
> G-O-D Bless
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> On Jul 21, 2022, at 11:00 AM, Karenbueno via Dialogue <
> dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
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> Dear colleagues,
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> I'll add one daring thing we said to each other "back then".
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> "All time is assigned time!"
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> Even at the age of 84, I cannot retire, but stay active in local church,
> women's group, climate action groups, and keep reading new books about our
> times!
>
> Karen Bueno (formerly Mrs. Terrence Wright, Karen Wright)
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Robertson Work via Dialogue <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net>
> To: Order Ecumenical Community <oe at lists.wedgeblade.net>; ICA Dialogue <
> dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net>
> Cc: Robertson Work <warkers at msn.com>
> Sent: Tue, Jul 19, 2022 5:19 pm
> Subject: Re: [Dialogue] [Oe List ...] WHO WE WERE
>
> Thanks to you, Frank, for sharing Gordon's wonderful reflections, and to
> Terry, and Randy for your reflections. I feel that you and I and many of us
> OE/ICA folk are a continuation of many of the ideas, visions, strategies,
> and actions of OE/ICA's past, and of course, many other sources as well. I
> find that I have continued to manifest many OE/ICA models and methods in
> other institutions and work over the past thirty years and continue to do
> so today. I agree that the most important question is: What are you and I
> doing today, each day, in this critical time of climate chaos, guns,
> threats to women, pandemics, war, and the decline of democracy? How can we
> take care of ourselves so that we can continue to care for those who care
> locally and globally?
>
> Robertson Work
> Earth activist and author
> Books and bio: https://www.amazon.com/Robertson-Work/e/B075612GBF
>
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> *From:* OE <oe-bounces at lists.wedgeblade.net> on behalf of Randy Williams
> via OE <oe at lists.wedgeblade.net>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 19, 2022 11:44 AM
> *To:* Order Ecumenical Community <oe at lists.wedgeblade.net>
> *Cc:* Randy Williams <randycw1938 at gmail.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [Oe List ...] WHO WE WERE
>
> In considering who we were and what we did as participation in some kind
> of continuum, I find myself thinking about what came before that gave rise
> to the part we played, and what has emerged, and is still emerging, as the
> result of our work. Saying this, I stand humbly before the reality that all
> change is the outcome of millions of relationships and interactions
> throughout time and space of which we, in the whole array, were but a
> momentary flicker, though I would trust, a necessary flicker.
> Randy
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> On Jul 19, 2022, at 11:20 AM, Terry Bergdall via OE <
> oe at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
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> Many of us continue to reflect upon those days, their significance, and,
> perhaps even more importantly, implications for our lives today. I know I
> do. I appreciated reading Gordon’s list, especially his comment about not
> trying to evaluate anything. It has more to standing before the wonder of
> it. I certainly have immense gratitude for being a part of the experience.
> Which, of course, in some form or another (even if it is just a listserv
> like this) continues today. Terry
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> On Jul 19, 2022, at 08:41, Frank Knutson via OE <oe at lists.wedgeblade.net>
> wrote:
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> Colleagues, I ran across this document from Gordon Harper. I share it with
> you. He articulates what so many of us experienced in those extraordinary
> years.
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> *What Were We Thinking??*
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> *It’s MLK Day, 2015, and I guess I have to write this.  My own fault for
> letting myself get drawn into this bloody archive project.  I’m one of
> those who are currently in the process of “accessioning” their own files.
> Which is to say, registering in an online database the types and quantities
> of materials we have in our personal collections.  I found I had to sit
> down in the midst of reviewing these piles of file folders and reflect on
> what on earth it was that we thought we were doing "back then."  As I tried
> restating for myself some aspects of that, I got sucked into that vortex of
> wonder that all of us who were around then experienced on more than one
> occasion.I’m astounded once again at the audacity of what we set out to
> do--at the range and scope of even imagining that such an undertaking might
> be possible (and, knowing that it was humanly impossible, nevertheless
> committing ourselves to doing it).What follows are a few of my
> wonderments.  I’m inviting you to share yours.  Your way of talking about
> this will be different from mine (of course: we didn’t agree on everything
> even back then).  Here goes with some of what I’ve been ruminating about:*
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> *· We set out to deeply understand and engage the historical moment in
> which we found ourselves, the global forces at work in that moment and the
> profound changes underway.· To do this, we studied and attempted to
> articulate for ourselves nothing less than the nature, the history and the
> dynamic relationships of the nations, regions, cultures and religions of
> planet Earth.· We created a framework that sought to capture and operate
> out of an essential knowledge of the key concepts not only of our own
> Western intellectual tradition but of Eastern and Southern thought as
> well.· We took on the challenge of discerning and daring to say what it
> meant to be fully human and the nature of the existential issues
> and decisions facing every human being in the twentieth
> century.· We undertook a massive crowdsourcing research effort in order to
> map and describe the nature of human social interaction and produced a
> model of the economic, political and cultural processes operating at every
> level of society.· We explored, reformulated and embodied ancient spiritual
> practices and created a variety of new ones in order to live spirit filled
> lives ourselves and to keep its presence at the forefront of everything we
> did.· We developed a corporate culture and form of intentional community
> that sought to hold the impossible tension between radical personal freedom
> and disciplined collective action.· We designed a strategy for building a
> global movement of decisional change agents and constructed a range of
> tools to awaken, engage, train and sustain them.· We sought to connect and
> integrate the interior spirit life and external structural dimensions of
> the profound changes we saw required in society· We adopted, adapted and
> invented methodologies designed to give all people a place at the table and
> real voice in the decisions being made that affected
> their lives.· We formulated and implemented a strategy for catalyzing
> substantive change from the local level to the global that involved pilot
> project demonstrations, wide scale replication campaigns and a
>  reconstituted system of education that provided people, communities
> and organizations with new and empowering images of possibility.*
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> * Clearly, only a start.  Join in with what you’d say, how you’d say it.
> Not trying to evaluate anything here, just capture a bit of what it was
> that captured us.*
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