[Dialogue] Dialogue Digest, Vol 115, Issue 3

Sun Oct 10 13:24:12 PDT 2021

Dear colleagues,

Glad to see that more people are waking up to what is needed to mitigate and adapt to climate chaos. Below is the blog post I wrote about this in May 2014, and which appeared in my 2017 book A Compassionate Civilization:
https://compassionatecivilization.blogspot.com/2014/05/preparing-for-impacts-of-climate-chaos.html
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Preparing for Impacts of Climate Chaos<https://compassionatecivilization.blogspot.com/2014/05/preparing-for-impacts-of-climate-chaos.html>
Thoughts concerning an emerging civilization of compassion based on sustainability, equality, justice, participation, tolerance, and nonviolence.
compassionatecivilization.blogspot.com
There is much to do that can be helpful along with our grief and gratitude.

In health and happiness,

Rob

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Author page for my books: https://www.amazon.com/Robertson-Work/e/B075612GBF

Blogsite: https://compassionatecivilization.blogspot.com/
Website: https://www.robertsonwork.com/

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Subject: Re: [Dialogue] Dialogue Digest, Vol 115, Issue 3

Dear All,

Debra is right on the point of many people will die in this process as we try and be in personal (local Community) situations. Specifically there is no mention in this Podcast nor its connection with The Climate change that is happening. One is feeding the other. My takeaway is that each of us has two connections that need to happen. One is at the local level. Each of us, (awakened selves) need to see what we can do in our own locale to mitigate the affect of Climate by supporting local gardens, Green Space designs and Connecting with others who are doing so. It is happening here in Mexico and you can see a difference in the fact that you can buy from these sources. That is happening but must become more prevalent.

The second is on the Macro level in regards to the whole Earth. People in this Dialogue are from all around the Earth and therefore the Awakening of people is also the occasion to connect Those Who Care with like minded people everywhere. My one example is an organization called WOTR, Water Organization Trust in Maharastra India that has many Local Communities who have transformed their local Watersheds into Businesses and each community’s gift to the whole World.

I hope this makes sense. Those commenting on this beautiful Podcast that Karen Newkirk does have pointed out.

Peace Within,

Jack

On Oct 10, 2021, at 11:30 AM, Debra Harris via Dialogue <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net<mailto:dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net>> wrote:

Larry,
I’m trying to hold the tension between what you wrote and the conversations we had during the group study on Choosing Earth. I’m not sure how Elgin’s (and many other) solemn predictions on climate change fit into the below paradigm…

  1.  Most things improve
  2.  Most people are in the middle
  3.  Countries need social development
  4.  The things we fear are unlikely to kill us

#3 is absolutely correct.

Yet concerning #1 & # 3:  I fear the rapid progression of climate change and worry it will potentially kill much of humanity if we don’t make significant changes/mitigation/radical decisions & actions.  In other words, change is happening, there is deep desire to improve our situation and yet it will take system wide global radical actions- and even those actions may be too late…

On what helps makes a difference, you wrote:

  *   Knowledge
  *   Enthusiasm for possible human futures
  *   Ethical values creative tensions to deal with modern reality - respectful reality with the biosphere and each other

Sincerely,
Debra Harris
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On Saturday, October 9, 2021, 8:38 PM, Lawrence Philbrook via Dialogue <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net<mailto:dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net>> wrote:

Thanks Jim and thanks Karen

I found Karens Podcast very good.   The community development Community of Practice was talking yesterday about the edge of Community development work and I am wondering if your podcast illunimates the complexity of the question.

Can you say some more about Aggressive Inertia and how to perceive it and counter it?

Hans Rosling ted talks (serious possibilist) Seemingly impossible is possible we could have a good world

  1.  Most things improve
  2.  Most people are in the middle
  3.  Countries need social development
  4.  The things we fear are unlikely to kill us

Avoiding preconceived ideas to learn from Indigenous peoples - 4 categories of knowledge = Literacy of the land - Clues

  *   21 Stories from around Australia - Enduring narrative
  *   Acute observation - Observing a Moth
  *   Alert responsiveness - Marine Parade re-enactment
  *   Wholistic Attentiveness- Fire management but barrier to seeing through to the level of complexity because of pre-conceptions

3 human constructs that are critical

  *   Knowledge
  *   Enthusiasm for possible human futures
  *   Ethical values creative tensions to deal with modern reality - respectful reality with the biosphere and each other

With respect, Larry

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  1. Dr. Karen Newkirk. Bending History (James Wiegel)

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Subject: [Dialogue] Dr. Karen Newkirk. Bending History
Date: October 9, 2021 at 21:14:31 GMT+8
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