[Dialogue] Dialogue Digest, Vol 115, Issue 3

Debra Harris quantum1135 at yahoo.com
Sun Oct 10 09:30:35 PDT 2021


Larry,I’m trying to hold the tension between what you wrote and the conversations we had during the group study on Choosing Earth. I’m not sure how Elgin’s (and many other) solemn predictions on climate change fit into the below paradigm…     
   - Most things improve
   - Most people are in the middle
   - Countries need social development
   - The things we fear are unlikely to kill us
#3 is absolutely correct. 
Yet concerning #1 & # 3:  I fear the rapid progression of climate change and worry it will potentially kill much of humanity if we don’t make significant changes/mitigation/radical decisions & actions.  In other words, change is happening, there is deep desire to improve our situation and yet it will take system wide global radical actions- and even those actions may be too late… 
On what helps makes a difference, you wrote:
   
   - Knowledge
   - Enthusiasm for possible human futures
   - Ethical values creative tensions to deal with modern reality - respectful reality with the biosphere and each other
Sincerely,Debra HarrisHoustonSent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone


On Saturday, October 9, 2021, 8:38 PM, Lawrence Philbrook via Dialogue <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:

Thanks Jim and thanks Karen
I found Karens Podcast very good.   The community development Community of Practice was talking yesterday about the edge of Community development work and I am wondering if your podcast illunimates the complexity of the question.
Can you say some more about Aggressive Inertia and how to perceive it and counter it?
Hans Rosling ted talks (serious possibilist) Seemingly impossible is possible we could have a good world   
   - Most things improve
   - Most people are in the middle
   - Countries need social development
   - The things we fear are unlikely to kill us

Avoiding preconceived ideas to learn from Indigenous peoples - 4 categories of knowledge = Literacy of the land - Clues   
   - 21 Stories from around Australia - Enduring narrative
   - Acute observation - Observing a Moth
   - Alert responsiveness - Marine Parade re-enactment
   - Wholistic Attentiveness- Fire management but barrier to seeing through to the level of complexity because of pre-conceptions
3 human constructs that are critical   
   - Knowledge
   - Enthusiasm for possible human futures
   - Ethical values creative tensions to deal with modern reality - respectful reality with the biosphere and each other
With respect, Larry

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/ep-111-bending-history-karen-newkirk/id1446199958?i=1000537185353


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From: James Wiegel <jfwiegel at yahoo.com>
Subject: [Dialogue] Dr. Karen Newkirk. Bending History
Date: October 9, 2021 at 21:14:31 GMT+8
To: Colleague Dialogue <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net>, OE Community <oe at lists.wedgeblade.net>


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