[Dialogue] “And now we know why”

[Nancy Trask]

The Water Warriors in Cannonball ND are another example.

Nancy Trask
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----- Original Message -----
From: Paula Philbrook via Dialogue <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net>
To: Colleague Dialogue <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net>
Cc: Paula Philbrook <paula.philbrook at gmail.com>
Sent: Wed, 04 Sep 2019 00:42:20 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: [Dialogue] “And now we know why”

Thank you all for your reflections.

At an Order youth meeting at the South House, JWM spoke.  The only part I
can remember was when he said, the "real" impact of the Order will be seen
in its third generation.

I hear on Facebook tidbits from gen 2 about their lives, cares, &
activism.  Sometimes, I get a glimmer of gen 3. And I smile.  Watch your
grand children! My daughters have grown to be amazing women.   As I witness
their self understanding, world view & global care.

I had the gift of Mangla & Hiramon's daughter here in Chicago for a couple
of years.  What a testimony to the Blue shirts!

I have no doubt the Spirit Movement made an impact.  The Journey itself is
the victory.

Paula

On Tue, Sep 3, 2019, 8:56 PM Mari Crocker via Dialogue <
dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:

> I love Jim’s probing questions in response to Jack’s pronouncements about
> all the places “we failed.”
>
> And I appreciate Dick’s gentle defense, based on his experience in the
> trenches of each.
>
> I also appreciate Jack’s subsequent expansive philosophical commentary
> that, as only Jack can, enlarged the context such that none of us really
> disagree.
>
> But I do.
>
> I believe we DID win in renewing the historic church as it existed in the
> latter part of the 20th century  (via RSI and our comprehensive curriculum
> -the Academy), in large part by expanding Religious Houses (via initiating
> the LCX and Parish Outreach Projects), and globalizing our work via HDP
> Replication (via Town Meetings, HDTS and Global Collegia such as the
> IERD.). And then the “we” had become the “us” — so many people of myriad
> cultures, languages and faiths, working “as local people, to build the
> earth, the planet earth."
>
> I measure our “win” versus “failure” in the words of human beings whose
> lives were “utterly changed/transformed” by their interaction with us, the
> OE, the ICA, the “blue shirts”, etc…….Joe and I  have heard those words,
> over and over again.  These need not be documented in polls or quantitative
> research.  I trust these voices are echoed in our archives and can
> contradict themes of “failure.”
>
> Grace and peace,  Marilyn (and Joe)
>
> On Sep 3, 2019, at 10:05 AM, Jack Gilles via Dialogue <
> dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
>
> Dick,
>
> I just wanted to affirm your response to my rather glib use of the word
> “failure”. All of creation, through a sensitive and response capacity,
> experiments with new forms. They are then constantly refined in the
> creative process over eons of time to what became lasting. So do we humans.
> We evolve through experimentation, learn from that experience and adjust.
> So we certainly were trying to be responsive to a vision of, (HDP, for
> example), what the new local needs to look like. We may not have succeeded
> but we learned. And it is that learning (and experimenting) that needs to
> be shared with other awakened one; and the time is short. You are exactly
> right: “failure is what drives life”. One thing clear to me is the new
> paradigm *is* here. The question is how fast that new paradigm becomes
> the operating paradigm. Telling the New Story is the new evangelism.
>
> Thanks!!
>
> Jack
>
> On Aug 30, 2019, at 16:18, Richard Alton via Dialogue <
> dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
>
> Great question Jim: I did a lot of replicating and would not describe any
> of them as failures or for that matter the 3 religious houses and for that
> matter a life time of church renewal- all have been awesome experiences,
> although would agree if you are saying the basic nature of life is
> failure....failure is what drives life
> Dick
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Aug 30, 2019, at 1:15 PM, James Wiegel via Dialogue <
> dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
>
> Jack:  you said in a recent email . . .
>
>
> We failed at replication, but now we know why.
>
>
> We failed at expanding Religious Houses, but now we know why.
>
>
> We failed at renewing the historical Christian church, but now we know why.
>
>
> I tried hunting around the archive website and looked a bit around
> wedgeblade.net.  Is there a document somewhere that outlines these
> “why’s”?
>
>
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