[Dialogue] [Oe List ...] Fwd: The Transestablishment Stance

Sun Jun 2 18:00:53 PDT 2019

Conspiracy Plots sell well these days, even on our own list serve!

Jim Wiegel
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> On Jun 2, 2019, at 5:31 PM, W. J. via OE <oe at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
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> I was sworn to secrecy as to just how the original film and video managed to sneak out of the Kemper Building (while management wasn't looking) and then get stealthily replaced. But I'm so glad we did it! Thanks to ICAI.
> BTW, here's a BBC piece on our very own Jolly Green Giant. I find it very telling, and appropriate, that Len acted out his care for the world as a Global Guardian of the Order in such a way that it never became public, or part of his public persona.
> Marshall
> BBC NEWS | Americas | Voice of Jolly Green Giant dies
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> BBC NEWS | Americas | Voice of Jolly Green Giant dies
> Elmer Dresslar, the man whose voice is most associated with the Jolly Green Giant vegetable adverts, dies at 80.
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> On Sunday, June 2, 2019, 6:21:54 PM EDT, Jo Nelson <jnelson at ica-associates.ca> wrote:
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> That’s a great story, Marshall. Thank you for the strategic restoration and translation to digital format!
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> It is an amazingly respectful historical piece.
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> Take care,
> Jo
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> From: W. J. <synergi at yahoo.com>
> Sent: Sunday, June 2, 2019 6:03:12 PM
> To: Colleague Dialogue; Order Ecumenical Community
> Cc: Jo Nelson
> Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] [Dialogue] Fwd: The Transestablishment Stance
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> Yes Jo, I do know where this clip came from.
> In 1965 CBS News sent a film crew to the EI campus to film a 30-minute program for 'Look Up and Live', their Sunday morning religious program.
> This show never aired. For reasons I know not of.
> Nevertheless Len Dresslar acquired one 16 mm B&W print that made it into the Order Archives.
> CBS News currently never heard of this program. Thus they have no copyright interest in trying to make money from it.
> I managed to have the one 16 mm print sneaked out of the Kemper Building (by persons unnamed), shipped to San Francisco by courier, and repaired and digitized. By the same outfit that preserved the famous 1963 Zapruder film from Dallas, BTW.
> And then it was carefully sneaked back into the Kemper Building and replaced where it had resided in the basement. All without alerting the Powers That Be to its temporary absence.
> The film is available on DVD--titled "The Bold Community"--as part of the archival material that also includes the 5th City appearance of Mayor Daley.
> You guys should have a copy in the files of the Canadian ICA.
> Marshall Jones
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> On Sunday, June 2, 2019, 12:24:38 PM EDT, Jo Nelson via OE <oe at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
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> Jim,
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> I played this clip for my son Tim, and he asked about the context – what was the occasion that Mathews was speaking, and someone filmed it? 
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> Do you or anyone know?  (other than it is typical Mathews…)
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> Take care,
> Jo
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> From: Dialogue <dialogue-bounces at lists.wedgeblade.net> on behalf of James Wiegel via Dialogue <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net>
> Reply-To: Colleague Dialogue <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net>
> Date: Sunday, June 2, 2019 at 9:42 AM
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> Cc: Jim Wiegel <jfwiegel at yahoo.com>
> Subject: [Dialogue] Fwd: The Transestablishment Stance
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> I am scared about the future, too, Carleton—especially when imagining the world my grandkids may live in.  In some ways, it is a relief to me to follow our national news and just focus on the squabbles in Washington — and not just any squabbles, but the ones JUST NOW, the ones that JUST MIGHT HAPPEN later this morning or this week.  I get lost in the flood of information.  Trying for a bigger picture seems scarier.  I read a poem in the book Bratsk Station that had a line in it that keeps coming back to me.  It went something like this:
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> “I am past 30.  I fear the future.  At night I hug the sheets between my knees.”
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> Working on the ICA Global Archives website on social change, I ran across this video clip from 1965 — seems relevant
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> A Brand New World That We Didn't Ask For The Bold Community 1965
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> A Brand New World That We Didn't Ask For The Bold Community 1965
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> https://icaglobalarchives.org/collections/analyzing-social-dynamics/
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> This would be an example for me of Transestablishment — 
> https://reform.ps/
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> Jim Wiegel  
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