[Dialogue] Testing a story

Thu Oct 6 14:05:38 PDT 2016

As I remember the story, folks went around the 5th City community looking for the problems, all the problems (one of the 5th City presuppositions) and found 500 and some odd of them (there was a specific number that they found in the story) and these were the basis of the 5th City Model -- here is an excerpt from testimony on 5th City to the US Congress "Second to imaginal education in import is the creation of the "grassroot" social construct. This begins with an inclusive analysis of the human problems in the area, the constant problem being a lack of adequate structures. In Fifth City a problem mat was constructed which identified over six hundred surface problem areas and organized them under five rubrics: economic, political, education, arts and life style."

You can find the 5th City Social model that resulted HERE.Assets - Fifth City

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 From: Jo Nelson via Dialogue <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net>
 To: Don Bushman <onedonbushman at gmail.com> 
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 Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2016 1:28 PM
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Thank you, Don. This is very helpful.  I had heard that it was 900 problems.  Whatever it was, it was definitely overwhelming!  
I know we did not invent brainstorming.  However, we did invent gestalting the data — looking for larger patterns in the data rather than sorting into categories.  And we added individual and small group brainstorming before group brainstorming, which addresses much of the current criticism that brainstorming as a group is not very effective. 
We have also relatively recently added a simple focused conversation to do naming, which captures insightful results in a much shorter time.  
And all of the method is an application of the deeper phenomenological method, which is where the magic of the process is…..
I am so grateful to have had a lifetime of working with profound method.
Take care,Jo 

On Oct 6, 2016, at 3:25 PM, Don Bushman <onedonbushman at gmail.com> wrote:
My memory is that your second story is the way it happened and that the total number of brainstormed issues was 5,000. We did not invent brainstorming however.
Don Bushman
On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 3:21 PM, Jo Nelson via Dialogue <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:

Hi, all,
I am in the final editing process of finishing the book Wayne started, Getting to the Bottom of ToP:  The Foundations of ToP Methods.
In an introduction of the Consensus Workshop Method, Wayne had a paragraph that went:"One of Mathews’firm beliefs was that the role of the church is to act out its faith in theworld. The workshop method was, perhaps, the clearest step into the world inthat it provided a practical way for any group in any context to examine asituation and form practical responses. The story goes that one of the first uses ofthe method was in the West Side of Chicago community development project called5th City with a group of youth in and on the edges of criminalgangs."This is where his story ends.  A couple of people editing the book asked “What is the rest of the story?”
Unfortunately, I don’t know what Wayne would have said, and I don’t know the rest of that particular story.  

I’m thinking to replace that story with a story that I know about, but I need to check the specifics. This is what I currently have to replace Wayne’s sentence: "One of thefirst uses of the method was in the West Side of Chicago community developmentproject called 5th City.  Agroup of community leaders and ICA staff met to articulate the problems in thecommunity.  They started brainstormingproblems until three huge blackboards were filled with hundreds of differentproblems.  The group was overwhelmed andin despair.  Someone said, “Let’s try tocluster similar problems together to see if we can see some patterns that will revealsome root problems.  The clusteringrevealed about 20 root issues, and the group began to have a hope that perhapsthey could address them.”Can anyone finish Wayne’s story, confirm my story and the details of it, or give me another succinct story of the earliest use of the brainstorming/clustering/ naming process?With gratitude,Jo Nelson

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