[Dialogue] Quote from Bonhoeffer

Evelyn Philbrook joyful52 at gmail.com
Thu May 17 02:20:24 PDT 2012


Thank you Beret!

Wish I was there with you all again!

Just got back from Imaginal Learning Course in China, excited, exhausted 
and pleased that we went.

Evelyn

On 5/14/2012 8:23 PM, Beret Griffith wrote:
>
> Thank you for your heart-spoken words, Jean.
>
> I experienced work on the Town Meeting Campaign, in the Archives last 
> week, as an opportunity for amazement and appreciation. In glancing 
> down at a TM report on progress in a community, there was an 
> announcement of a recycling program launch, circa 1977. Stopping in 
> the hall to talk with Karen Snyder, she reminded me of the 77 
> neighborhood meetings done in Chicago in the 80's. A meeting for 
> /Accelerate '77/ was about to begin in the ICA boardroom, and right 
> across the hall there are banana trees, WITH BANANAS, growing in the 
> 8^th floor women's bathroom, thanks to the imagination and work of Pam 
> Bergdall.
>
> A while back someone asked about quotes, which reminded me of the late 
> 70's, early 80's when Sue Laxdal and I combed through EI/ICA talks and 
> the songbooks words to quote. The selected quotes were beautifully 
> hand-written by a calligrapher (this was before the refinements of 
> desktop publishing) and sold as Desk Art through our short-lived 
> company NewSpaces, Inc. I still have a set and took a look this morning.
>
> Jim Kelly once said to me, "Time was created to keep everything from 
> happening at once." So, maybe not so past at all.
>
> "The world needs that which is in every person, if sparked, will give 
> new life." Kay Lush, 1979
>
> "Be careful of free advice -- only people who are committed are going 
> to live what they do." Larry Ward, 1981
>
> "Creation didn't stop because someone wrote a story about it." Larry 
> Ward, 1980
>
> "People need to see resiliency." Elsa Bengel, 1980
>
> "This will cost you your life and it is worth it." Larry Ward, 1980
>
> "Dream about the future and how it will look." Rod Wilson, 1981
>
> "The future is just as open as if something else had been decided." 
> Richard Loudermilk, 1979
>
> And from a couple of songs:
>
> "Consider the past, its good,
>
> Respond to the now, let's act!
>
> Create a new day, start now,
>
> Set sail, fly, you can work miracles."
>
> "Listen and you will hear, the future is coming clear, and everybody 
> alive has something to say."
>
> Today I'm especially appreciative of our colleagues, old and new, who 
> invented "Accelerate 77" and to John Cock for daily sending words and 
> images to start the day.
>
> Beret Griffith
>
> *From:*dialogue-bounces at lists.wedgeblade.net 
> [mailto:dialogue-bounces at lists.wedgeblade.net] *On Behalf Of *Jean Long
> *Sent:* Friday, May 11, 2012 11:59 PM
> *To:* Colleague Dialogue
> *Subject:* Re: [Dialogue] Quote from Bonhoeffer
>
> Greetings wonderful colleagues --
>
> This is Jean Long.  I work in the Archives.  Now, I don't know from 
> quotes about the future generations -- all I can relate to you is what 
> I have seen developing here in the Kempter Bldg. with the new staff 
> who are running the ICA.
>
> They have attended courses like Elise and George Packard's on Imaginal 
> Presence (forgive the title - it is something like that).  They are 
> working with a lot of profound old war horses -- and it is 
> transforming their perspective on life.
>
> They come to our staff meetings and talk about "used to have a job 
> here - and now they see that they have a mission in life to be here".  
> They are learning to work as one team instead of little fiefdoms.
>
> The bldg. manager and the finance person have decided to move onto the 
> 7th floor.  The way they described it to our resident's meeting is, 
> "Working with the ICA folks is the most extraordinary experience they 
> have had - and they want to know more and figure moving in to live 
> amongst us is the way to pursue that.
>
> We have monthly Friday night meals where we do an opening context 
> about the role the meal has played in history - and in the ICA.  We do 
> birthday celebrations and a short conversataion at the end that lets 
> us talk about who we are as a community - leading into a secular 
> absolution.  Even the bldg. construction mgr. and his crew come to that!!!
>
> So I don't know from quotes - but living with examples of care, 
> compassion and sacrifiice has done a lot to shape the next generation 
> here in the Kemper Bldg.
>
> PS - About 6 of the new staff are paying the way to the Nepal 
> Conference.  ...and two parents are taking their teenagers to have 
> this experience with them.
>
> Jean - moving to Kemper has made all the difference in my life - and 
> theirs.
>
> On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 2:44 PM, William Schlesinger 
> <pvida3607 at gmail.com <mailto:pvida3607 at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Guess our eschatalogical hero got it wrong!  Should have put Pontius 
> Pilate away!
>
> On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 12:14 PM, R Williams <rcwmbw at yahoo.com 
> <mailto:rcwmbw at yahoo.com>> wrote:
>
> Calls to mind the phrase out of the Patton monologue, "Your job is not 
> to die for your country..."
>
> "Listen to what is emerging from yourself to the course of being in 
> the world; not to be supported by it, but to bring it to reality as it 
> desires."
> -Martin Buber (adapted)
>
> *From:*William Schlesinger <pvida3607 at gmail.com 
> <mailto:pvida3607 at gmail.com>>
> *To:* Colleague Dialogue <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net 
> <mailto:dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net>>
> *Sent:* Thursday, May 10, 2012 12:48 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [Dialogue] Quote from Bonhoeffer
>
> Of course, sometimes the coming generation needs to see people going 
> down fighting like heroes in the face of certain defeat!  Or at least, 
> taking the hit of what seems like certain defeat, and disclosing that 
> certain defeat isn't all it's cracked up to be...
>
> On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 9:41 AM, Terry Bergdall <bergdall2 at gmail.com 
> <mailto:bergdall2 at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> "To talk of going down fighting like heroes in the face of certain 
> defeat is not really heroic at all, but merely a refusal to face the 
> future. The ultimate question for a responsible man to ask is not how 
> he is to extricate himself heroically from the affair, but how the 
> coming generation is to live."
>
> I believe this is from "After Ten Years" in Letters and Papers from 
> Prison. Terry
>
> On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 8:50 AM, George Holcombe 
> <geowanda at earthlink.net <mailto:geowanda at earthlink.net>> wrote:
>
>     What was that quote from Bonhoeffer a few days ago about lost
>     causes, or going down with the ship, something like that.  I was
>     trying to look it up and couldn't find it.
>
>     George Holcombe
>     14900 Yellowleaf Tr.
>     Austin, TX 78728
>     Mobile 512/252-2756
>     geowanda at earthlink.net <mailto:geowanda at earthlink.net>
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>     Hope appeareth, but it is not your Hope---you do not have anything
>     to do with it. It just appeareth. It comes as a stranger, as an
>     alien---it just appeareth! You do not even know why you hope. How
>     in the world could you hope when there is absolutely nothing to
>     justify any hope?    ~Joseph W. Mathews
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