[Dialogue] Quote from Bonhoeffer

Sun May 13 06:55:01 PDT 2012

Thank you, Jean!

I was privileged to be at the Austin ICA 50th Anniversary celebration two weeks 
ago.  Terry Bergdall joined us so we had a real update on current ICA programs.

Great things are happening and were reported, but I missed hearing something.  

This is the missing piece (I see I first typed "peace").  As are the local 
celebrations, once a month in the Central Texas area, where a remnant gather to 
share.  And our wonderful Women's Spirit Retreats twice a year. And reaching 
together via the net like this.

For some its program, for some it program, mission and community.

What else are those of us not privileged to live at Kemper doing "together"?

Grace and Peace,

Love and Light,

mary hampton

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From: Jean Long <jean.long512 at gmail.com>
To: Colleague Dialogue <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net>
Sent: Fri, May 11, 2012 11:58:51 PM
Subject: Re: [Dialogue] Quote from Bonhoeffer

Greetings wonderful colleagues --

This is Jean Long.  I work in the Archives.  Now, I don't know from quotes about 
the future generations -- all I can relate to you is what I have seen developing 
here in the Kempter Bldg. with the new staff who are running the ICA.

They have attended courses like Elise and George Packard's on Imaginal Presence 
(forgive the title - it is something like that).  They are working with a lot of 
profound old war horses -- and it is transforming their perspective on life. 

They come to our staff meetings and talk about "used to have a job here - and 
now they see that they have a mission in life to be here".  They are learning to 
work as one team instead of little fiefdoms.

The bldg. manager and the finance person have decided to move onto the 7th 
floor.  The way they described it to our resident's meeting is, "Working with 
the ICA folks is the most extraordinary experience they have had - and they want 
to know more and figure moving in to live amongst us is the way to pursue that.

We have monthly Friday night meals where we do an opening context about the role 
the meal has played in history - and in the ICA.  We do birthday celebrations 
and a short conversataion at the end that lets us talk about who we are as a 
community - leading into a secular absolution.  Even the bldg. construction mgr. 
and his crew come to that!!!

So I don't know from quotes - but living with examples of care, compassion and 
sacrifiice has done a lot to shape the next generation here in the Kemper Bldg.

PS - About 6 of the new staff are paying the way to the Nepal Conference.  
...and two parents are taking their teenagers to have this experience with them.

Jean - moving to Kemper has made all the difference in my life - and theirs. 

On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 2:44 PM, William Schlesinger <pvida3607 at gmail.com> 
wrote:

Guess our eschatalogical hero got it wrong!  Should have put Pontius Pilate 
away!
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>On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 12:14 PM, R Williams <rcwmbw at yahoo.com> wrote:
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>Calls to mind the phrase out of the Patton monologue, "Your job is not to die 
>for your country..."
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>>"Listen to what is emerging from yourself to the course of being in the world; 
>>not to be supported by it, but to bring it to reality as it desires."
>>-Martin Buber (adapted)
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>>From: William Schlesinger <pvida3607 at gmail.com>
>>To: Colleague Dialogue <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> 
>>Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2012 12:48 PM
>>Subject: Re: [Dialogue] Quote from Bonhoeffer
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>>Of course, sometimes the coming generation needs to see people going down 
>>fighting like heroes in the face of certain defeat!  Or at least, taking the hit 
>>of what seems like certain defeat, and disclosing that certain defeat isn't all 
>>it's cracked up to be...
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>>On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 9:41 AM, Terry Bergdall <bergdall2 at gmail.com> wrote:
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>>"To talk of going down fighting like heroes in the face of certain defeat is not 
>>really heroic at all, but merely a refusal to face the future. The ultimate 
>>question for a responsible man to ask is not how he is to extricate himself 
>>heroically from the affair, but how the coming generation is to live." 
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>>>I believe this is from "After Ten Years" in Letters and Papers from Prison. 
>>>Terry
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>>>On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 8:50 AM, George Holcombe <geowanda at earthlink.net> 
>wrote:
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>>>What was that quote from Bonhoeffer a few days ago about lost causes, or going 
>>>down with the ship, something like that.  I was trying to look it up and 
>>>couldn't find it.
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>>>>
>>>>George Holcombe
>>>>14900 Yellowleaf Tr.
>>>>Austin, TX 78728
>>>>Mobile 512/252-2756
>>>>geowanda at earthlink.net
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>>>>Hope appeareth, but it is not your Hope—you do not have anything to do with it. 
>>>>It just appeareth. It comes as a stranger, as an alien—it just appeareth! You do 
>>>>not even know why you hope. How in the world could you hope when there 
>>>>is absolutely nothing to justify any hope?    ~Joseph W. Mathews
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