[Dialogue] The key question . . .

R Williams rcwmbw at yahoo.com
Sun Jul 1 10:26:20 PDT 2012 

If it had to be brief enough to put on a T shirt, how about ...on the backs of "those who dare to live the future now."  (Margaret Wheatley) or maybe Buber's those who are "bringing to reality the emerging future."  These kind of hold the perspective of the wedgeblade, no longer/not yet, etc.


"Listen to what is emerging from yourself to the course of being in the world; not to be supported by it, but to bring it to reality as it desires."
-Martin Buber (adapted)
 

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 From: Jack Gilles <icabombay at igc.org>
To: Colleague Dialogue <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> 
Sent: Sunday, July 1, 2012 11:48 AM
Subject: Re: [Dialogue] The key question . . .
   
Good push Randy.

Here's a try.  "....on the backs of those who have a stance of being intentional, futuric and comprehensive, live out of the word of possibility, (affirmation of all things) and stand self-conciously before the final Mystery of Life."  Now that might be too narrow and point to the Ordering dynamic within the religious, so maybe ".....on the backs of those who live on behalf of all."

Or, perhaps, as Hess calls them, "The League", or "The Invisible College" and direct people to those sources for more clarity.

And your substitution?

Jack
On Jul 1, 2012, at 11:26 AM, R Williams wrote:
Jack,
> 
>Since the word "religious" has become somewhat stilted today, what word would you use in its place in your question without changing what you're pointing to?
> 
>Randy
>
>"Listen to what is emerging from yourself to the course of being in the world; not to be supported by it, but to bring it to reality as it desires."-Martin Buber (adapted)
> 
>
>________________________________
> From: Jack Gilles <icabombay at igc.org>
>To: Colleague Dialogue <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> 
>Sent: Sunday, July 1, 2012 11:20 AM
>Subject: Re: [Dialogue] The key question . . .
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>Alright Jim, you seem to be serious about this question thing, so I'll give you the question that I feel is THE question.
>
>
>Given the stance that "History rides on the back of the religious" that we embodied and lived..... "Who are the 'religious' today, where would you look to find them, what are the marks that tell you so, and what might we share (and how) with them so that they are empowered and connected?"
>
>
>Jack
>On Jul 1, 2012, at 10:54 AM, James Wiegel wrote:
>Well, this is already a better conversation than I imagined.  Candidates so far:
>>
>>Considering what we were/are/might be, what is our 
calling?  What are we called to know/do/be?  Jan and Steve
>>What are some of the 
important partnerships the future needs?  Jan
>>"How do I
      get you to change your mind and do what I think is right?"  Jim B
>>"How are we to live together and preserve this planet for the future?" ?  Karen
>>
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>>
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>>--- On Sun, 7/1/12, Janice Ulangca <aulangca at stny.rr.com> wrote:
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>>>From: Janice Ulangca <aulangca at stny.rr.com>
>>>Subject: Re: [Dialogue] Ways to Find Your Calling
>>>To: "Colleague Dialogue" <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net>
>>>Date: Sunday, July 1, 2012, 1:04 AM
>>>
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>>> 
>>>Thanks for this Forbes article, Steve.  I observe 
myself and others needing, and having the opportunity to, re-find our 
"calling".  This happens often as circumstances change - health, 
economic resources, people dying, new friends, new ideas, 
communities/institutions dying,  communities/institutions showing 
signs of new life, etc. .  And the more I am sensitive to the nuances of my 
situation, the more I realize that there are open doors in even the most 
restrictive situations (The Future Is Open) - so circumstances are always 
changing, at least somewhat.   
>>>  
>>>In Forbes, such a dollar oriented publication, 
this author uses the word "calling" - that comes from a religious tradition - 
our human concept of who God is *  "calling" us to know-do-be something.  She makes good 
points - including taking the long view (what does the future require?).  
But "following your dreams" doesn't quite cut it as a total substitute for using 
what you have to serve the needs of the universe. 
>>>  
>>>In this 50th year of EI/ICA, some of the questions to 
live with:  Considering what we were/are/might be, what is our 
calling?  What are we called to know/do/be?  What are some of the 
important partnerships the future needs? 
>>>  
>>>Janice Ulangca 
>>>  
>>>* Just back from a 
great week at Chautauqua with M-F talks by John Shelby Spong.  Thus the 
"human concept of God" as a foundation for approaching the Bible, theology, 
the depth and openness of life. 
>>>  
>>>  
>>>----- Original Message -----  
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>>>>To: dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net  
>>>>Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2012 8:30  PM 
>>>>Subject: [Dialogue] Better to have Qs  with "shape" to find your calling,more like these   
>>>>http://www.forbes.com/sites/jessicahagy/2012/06/26/20-ways-to-find-your-calling/
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